Going Deeper with Tully & Jess/
- September 22, 2020
On this episode, Tully and Jess chat about life as an influencer, hobbies and interests, self-care and mental health, goals and dream guests, and a viral TikTok.
On today’s show:
- Life as an influencer
- Personal interests, hobbies, and writing
- Looking after mental health
- Dating and dream guests
- Long term and short term goals
- A viral TikTok
This podcast is produced by BIG MEDIA COMPANY.
Hello, and welcome to Episode 10 of too much tally, we've made it to 10 episodes, who would have thought we thought it'd be a cute idea to do a bit of a reflection on the last 10 episodes. I've asked you guys at too much tally on Instagram to give me your thoughts, thoughts, feelings, opinions, suggestions. And also any questions you have for me, obviously, Episode One was a bit of a q&a with me and we thought we'd see how you guys are feeling if you have any further questions now that you know me a little bit better. So I throw it to you and Jess has the questions. Just how am I? Good? How are you? I'm good. I'm in a good mood today. I think 10% is definitely worth celebrating. I have a wine as per usual, actually have a orange one this time. It's been hard to track down but I found it. You have your drink. Let's get into it.
Jess, I don't know about you. But my dams have been blowing up with people loving our battery percentage check ins like that fully implementing it in their own lives. How great is that? It's so great and so good that we can help people identify how they're feeling and really be quite reflective about it. I totally agree. I think that you know, just too often, especially with Ioh k day happening just this week past too often. It's just easier to say Yeah, I'm fine. Oh, yeah, I'm okay. Or even No, I'm not okay, but then not to sort of elaborate and I think by making people give this percentage, it does naturally opens up the conversation so we can help people with the battery percentage, but also, what else have you influence people into this week? Or the past 10 episodes, I should say? Oh, no, I don't know. There's so many. What are you? Why are you orange wine? Oh, yeah, my orange wine. Yeah. Okay, so I got a glass of orange wine guys from blind corner. We did touch on it in the dating episode. I sent a bottle to a hinge boy, I'm bouncing him. Anyway, I have a feeling that just because of this podcast, it's like sold out everywhere. It's now impossible to get like impossible. I had to go to three different bolos to try and find this bottle of wine. And I'm having to actually buy a six pack from the winery itself. Just to drink it. So guys, can you just like back off and like let me have my wife this tallies wine let me have my sing about zingers Zynga then I had a short of chicken like I don't know the power we have I didn't think it was this big of a podcast but maybe it is. Just how's your week been? Waiting? Good. My leather jackets arrived. I saw you daily talk show. Oh Hump Day reply. Can't remember. But I saw you rocking it looks good. Thank you, ul. Yeah, it does. I've got through one was a little bit bigger one was a little bit smaller, but they'll both come in handy when I need them. The bigger one I can just wear like a jumper or something under it. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I'm super excited what like a kind of like a six year more fitted one even maybe a cropped version to wear with like a silk Cami for date night but then you definitely want a slightly bigger one where you can layer up underneath it for winter especially in Melbourne. That's exactly right. I'm not sure if you've noticed the flowers in my background here. Oh, they're so nice. So for people who can't see they're Australian natives they are two beautiful big bumps that was sent to me just because the other day by certain someone. Right? And it was so there was no reasoning behind it was just last night I was having I had a pretty crappy week last week. I'm not gonna lie I was I was pretty flat, pretty low on pretty low percentage of my battery. And he just sent them to me just because which was very, very sweet of him. Anyway, moving right along. Moving right along. What's up this episode? Yes. So as you mentioned earlier, we wanted to, you know, reflect on the past 10 episodes, get a feel for how your audience is finding the podcast, what they want to hear more of what they want to know more about of you. So you've sent me again, some questions from your audience members. I have
noticed 30 is last time which is which was nice to read through. Yeah, no, I definitely if we were to do these last time. So last time, I kicked off with a really really rude question. We didn't Okay, this is the thing I think we need to let the listeners have too much Telly know like the BTS of of what goes on behind closed doors. So I think many of you guys it seems so sweet because many of you have been messaging me and probably just as well saying how much you really love Jessica and friendship and how you love our connection and our chemistry and how we get along. Which is so lovely and kind of you to say and so sweet because we actually only met you know day one of this podcast A lot of you think we've been friends for a while or assume just because we get along so well that we've been friends. We haven't been friends for that long. So it's really really sweet that you've picked up on how well we get along I adore Jess, I think she's just the best and I feel so lucky to have been gifted her as my producer on this podcast. I wouldn't be able to do it without her. But episode one yet look. It turned out really well. I was very proud of it. I was very happy with it but it was an absolute fucking stupid shop in a ha like was it was a stitch up so
Out boss produced boys executive producers. You guys probably know them. Tommy and Josh from the daily talk show. Love those two Joshua celebrity's 30th birthday. Happy birthday, Josh. Happy birthday, Josh. Happy birthday, Josh. So they had already hired Jess, they love Jess, they obviously knew me. And they thought we get along really well. And then we're like, Look, we've been discussing this podcast, we had a few top line ideas. I didn't. I don't think we even had an Oh no, we didn't have a name. But we didn't really know what it probably looked like just yet. It was in my head, it was still kind of in the process of being organised and planned and sorted. But they were like, Look, we've got this new go, Jess, she's great. You'll love her. Trust us. How about you just come in, and we'll just like muck around for a bit. You know, like, we'll just, we'll Chuck some some stuff on and we'll record some stuff and get behind the mics. You can get comfortable with it. Obviously, Jess, you know, hadn't had a whole lot of experience in podcast land hard to believe I know. Because she's so amazing. And such a natural.
So that like, you know, you can meet Jess, you guys can kind of like feeling each other out and just see how you go and just have a bit of a play. And I'm like, okay, cool that that's like super easy breezy. Like, sure, right? Mm hmm. But then I got into the studio is the daily talk show Show Studios in Abbotsford. And it was fully set up like the lights were all on and like, I was going to sit with the boys sat through that shot. It was very, very formal feeling and I was like, wait, what the gist was already behind a mic. Like, it was very formal. I was like, okay, we're just gonna muck around but Okay, cool. I guess we should take it seriously. They chucked me behind a mic. They leave leave Jess and I but by ourselves, which is also weird, and the voice just disappear. And then it's just Jess and I in the studio looking at each other like Hello, stranger. Nice to meet you.
I could barely see your head over the TV, the computers grades. Anyway. So I knew that we were going to have a play around and we'd asked my followers some some questions just so we had some content to muck around with and just had access to all of that. And then I'm nervous. Just as obviously nervous. I can tell you I was nervous. I was so nervous. Because the thing is like, I obviously knew who you were. I watched you on Digg brother. Obviously, I followed you on Instagram. But my ex boyfriend was hot, you know? Not almost being classic. Yeah. And you're gonna bring that up. Can't wait to have him on the show.
You're like, wait, we have to wait two videos. So you can say you can actually have him in the flesh? Yes, actually, that would be great. Thanks. We'd like professional hair and makeup done and like what are you?
It's like my hands like bouncy. Yes, yeah.
Yeah, I was I was super nervous. And I was also extra nervous because of some of the questions that I had to ask you, which I didn't know about, like you had the questions. I didn't know what you're going to be asking me. That's right. And I guess you know, some of them were nice. Some of them are obvious about Big Brother that kind of thing. Talia and whatnot. Some of them were
really in depth and really quite thoughtful. And then others were just downright fucking dirty. disgraceful. And I want to know, do you remember the first question I asked? You asked you that didn't make it to me. Of course.
Okay, so you're this like, sweet little like, you look really sweet. And I could tell you a nerve and I thought, oh, God bless I like you know, this is really sweet. And then he fucking open with this. Have you ever squatted? Oh my god. Fuck, he really is such a big one to start on. I I'm just I mean, if you would try to like get me off guard and get me to like, let my walls down it what I studied. I was like, What?
And that's when we realised that the boys are actually listening to us and watching us from upstairs. That's wrong, because we didn't realise Yeah, we had no idea that they were actually keeping their eyes on us at all times. I couldn't believe it. And I never pinned you opt in them. I asked him always day 1am i right. Am I right? No. And I answered it like truthfully, because I thought, Well, fuck, I can't, you know, kick it off in the wind. nor can I say I don't want to answer that when the whole premise of the podcast is, you know, nothing's off limits. I fucking outed you, you know, and then we just kept rolling. Thankfully, thankfully, I'm sure my brothers and my dad would be thankful. It wasn't included in the episode. But yes, and fortunately, they're gonna have to hear it now.
That that's the story. So it's funny how beautifully episode one came together. It's a testament to the boys as well. Tommy does an amazing job of editing the episodes, but it's just funny that it was I thought we were just having a muck around and ends up being the very first episode of the podcast. And I think it's really nice that episode 10 we get to have a bit of a retrospective look, shall we say at the end? So you have a few questions that the followers and listeners have sent in. So you can ask me some of those now, and then I'm sick of being in the hot seat. So I'm going to flip it back on you and ask you some questions that you have no idea about. Okay, and I'm ready. I'm really excited for that. I'm really nervous as long as it doesn't include what we just did. Just go ahead
All right. First question is what is your life isn't important to like normally. So from work parties and online bullies, how do you balance it all? And what are the pressures that come with it? It's a great question because it's not normal at all at the moment. Like I'm never home this much ever, ever.
Influential life is pretty great. You know, I know that I can sort of vent about influencing life not being super, super fulfilling sometimes. That's kind of gone to the wayside since gaming podcast because now I feel fulfilled because of the podcast. But it is really fun and it is no day is the same. I know that sounds probably cliche, but you know, I could have a Russia opening one night I could have a movie premiere The next night, I could go to a gig the night after that. During the day, there's lots of lunches and, you know, brand launches and rush. You know, there's there's never a dull moment. There's lots of parties, lots of events, lots of emails as well, like, I think that people underestimate how much time I spend on my laptop. And then obviously, there's the content shoots for brands now, it's been really hard lately, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but I can only shoot at my house at the moment. So I'm running out of spaces with good lighting, what is it so many spaces at my little house that I can shoot in? I mean, my favourite a ring life. I know, like I do have a ring light. But usually my manager Jen and best friend, she's amazing, she's so great. She's always happy to shoot me and she just we work really well together. You know, like, she knows my angles, she knows what photos I am going to like and what photos I refuse to put up. And something that I find fascinating about your life. And it's both, I guess a gift and a detriment to yourself is the dams that you get that is super nice. And then the dams that you get that up fucking horrible, and that's when it breaks my heart for you. Because it's like, You don't deserve it. And people feel like they have a right to slide on in and I don't know, whatever they let you know, think about you, they tell you which is not okay. Then on the other the flip side, you get really nice messages through so I know but you know what, I am so grateful for all those lovely message messages. But sometimes the really nice ones take just as much out of me as the horrible ones because I when I say that I take the time to respond to every single day. And I really do both my primary inbox and my secret other folder. So many influences. I know people in public, I just ignore them. Because if you start you know, it's kind of like opening Pandora's box. But as I said before, I feel like it you know, at this point in my career, if someone's taking the time to send me a message, the least I can do is respond. If they're lovely, that's really sweet. I can reply something quickly. Like thank you so much for taking the time to send that message. I really really appreciate it. If they're quite heavy and emotional I that takes it out of me a lot because I want to take the time to reply probably. But then I'm giving myself you know, keep giving it's like it's like I'm this big jar of Oreo cookies, right? And every time I respond to positive or negative I give a little bit of cookie so it's like how much cookie do I have left? Like I'm kind of out of cookies by this point. It's been seven years you know like my job looking pretty empty. Um, but yeah, the trolls are horrific as well. Like I had one last night. I put up a photo of Romeo Beckham who was 18 Can I just say just 18 but a tale of legal age. And I had this person like send me these messages about like ripping it apart. I'm just like, oh
Can we just let me live my life there's so much happening in the world can we just focus on the important stuff? Um, but yeah, influence alive There's No two days are the same but lots of travelling as well which is awesome. Usually. Lots of lots of travelling I think this is the longest I've been in the country for last seven years.
But yeah, it's it's a very exciting life I won't pretend it's not I went bullshit you I'm jealous a little bit. Well, you know, I usually sometimes I get to bring a friend and one of my friends have you know normal nine to five jobs. So if I get to bring a friend maybe we can convince the boys let you come with me and we can like take this show on the road. That would be bloody great. Wouldn't it? Yeah, when you know what I could actually up your Instagram game because right now just I don't know what what's going on in your life if you just if you're feeling a vibe but suddenly you've got monochrome aesthetic has changed what's happening with that? Speaking of influencers and Instagram, why we now we now thinking we're really artsy we like Nara it's not at all honestly that post last night was purely just because I it was out of laziness that I put it in black and white because I didn't want to edit them to make them look good with their normal colours. I don't know if that's a thing or not I should probably shouldn't even care about it. But no because now Your problem is you've got full uploads in a row that are black and white. So now you're going to feel the pressure to continue that look. This is true. I do love black and white like I love monochrome colours. Yeah, no shade. Right now. You look like Wednesday Adams.
Like you literally look like Wednesday Addams from The Addams Family. I'm wearing this bubblegum pink top, my blonde hair and you're in a really dark lipstick. It's a docket nerd turn it just looks really dark, ugly sliding I think I've got an idea.
Just came to me know how you do brand takeovers. Maybe you can do a demo.
That'd be fun. You don't need me to take you out of your perfect the way you are. Thank you. Okay. All right, moving on. What are your personal interests and hobbies? And how do they make you unique? So does that make me unique? I'm a huge foodie. I love Love, love food. I my favourite thing in the world to do is to go out to a new restaurant. We're so lucky here in Melbourne, that we have amazing restaurants. We've got new bars and new cafes opening all the time. And I feel really, really lucky. In fact, when I moved from Sydney that was one of the biggest things I was excited to do is to check out all the Melbourne restaurants. My favourite thing in the world to do is check out a new restaurant. I love everything from like the menus, the fonts on the menus, the staff uniforms, the fitouts, the bathrooms, the cutlery, like I literally obsess over every little detail. I would much rather spend, you know, someone's like, Look, he's $1,000 what do I spend it on? I would absolutely spend it on eating out than I would on clothes or handbags or shoes. I really don't care, that kind of stuff. I love flowers. And that sounds lame, but I really get a lot of joy out of arranging flowers, and fresh flowers. My mom was a bit the same. I seem so beautiful. I just I just get so it's so therapeutic for me. Is that a weird hobby to have it? 32 No, I love that. I think that's I mean, it's appropriate for 33 really, is it? I don't think I have any other I think I need to start some like pick up some hobbies. I really wanted to do a cooking canvas. Yep. Knowing full well I have zero artistic ability. And what's the other one? Will you do that? Like the pottery? Oh, yes, I want to do the pottery wheel as well. Basically any class any one of those classes you can do with a girlfriend where you get drunk and do the activity. Yeah, that's my dear. Have a good time. All right, well, I have a gift voucher for
an art kind of class with one so maybe you could come with me because I don't want to do that solar. Oh my god, let's absolutely do that. And that was like tiny little Max and record little bits of it. And let's get really drunk and get really competitively competitive. You competitive? Yeah, super competitive. Okay. I mean, art is hard to be competitive, because it's like, you know, abstraction you do? Exactly. So, I mean, we're gonna have to set some boundaries there. But guess what those classes are usually like, Hey, here's a bunch of flowers. You have to paint this bunch of flowers. So it's whether it's who paints the best punch.
Like, but I'm gonna win. Okay, sorry. I digress. Next question. We'll do that after. Okay. How did you get into writing and why? This is a funny one. I always wanted to be a fashion designer. I was obsessed with fashion. I loved magazines, I would just talking about before I collected magazines, I had stacks and stacks and stacks and in my room, and I really wanted to be a fashion designer. I did all the right subjects to do that. Even though again, I was terrible. I can't even draw a stick figure, let alone design anything of worth is great, then for the cost. And then we had one of those. I don't know if you guys have them down here in Victoria, but we'd have those occasional statewide tests that you do. Yeah, every school does the same test. Yeah, what I called.
I don't remember what they called, but I know what you're talking about, or do the same test across the board. And then you get like, ranked based off. Yeah, anyways, and then become Yeah, and they're probably different in every state. But you guys know what I'm talking about. If you went to school in Australia, I'm sure there's similar ones overseas. Anyway, we did an English one. And I like, like 100% like, I absolutely fucking nailed it. And I had to get the certificate of excellence and had to go in assembling and got on stage. And my career advisor or my year advisor pulled me aside I was like, totally, like, you're very talented. Like, you're actually very good at this. I thought, Oh, okay. I mean, I used to write little novels to my parents when I was little and make them buy them often for $1. But I just didn't think I don't think I thought I could turn it in. I didn't think I thought I could turn it into Korea. I wasn't aware that I could turn that into Korea. And so once I kind of realised I was good at it, I realised I couldn't draw to save myself. I kind of flipped it and then wanted to be a journalist that worked in fashion magazine. So I still wanted to be in fashion. And in magazine industry. I just went from a fashion designer to a writer. Do you think you'd still be interested in pursuing it? I still do you know, like I always said my sort of one of my my dream jobs that I've bought my favourite job that I've ever had was when I worked for pedestrian TV. I love writing for publications like pedestrian TV and Mamma Mia, where I can literally just write what I want to write, I can swear I can write about what I want to write about. Whether it's pop culture, TV, fashion, music, you know, what's annoying me in the world at the moment politics, that's the dream gig to me. It's just unfortunate that there is literally no money in that, like none at all. I think I get paid 10 times more to do a selfie on Instagram, which is really disheartening, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. I mean, you could still do it. It's a passion project, which I do you know, I still write I have my blog. I write in the side. I write freelance for those publications. It's just I'm getting 200 bucks rather than a lot more
All right, what are the effects you think reality TV has on people? Are we talking about contestants or people watching programmes? contestants, I think, I truly think that we should do a whole episode on this because I have a lot of thoughts and feelings and opinions. I've always been really cautious in biting the hand that feeds me, I, you know, still want to work in media, obviously, I would still do another TV show. So I'm really careful about where I put blame.
I do think that there needs to be a bigger duty of care to contestants. I think that, you know, telling a contestant that they have access to a studio psychologist just isn't enough. I think we need regular checkups. During the show before the show, even before the show during the show, and then after the show, and I'm not just saying the minute that a contestant is evicted, that's it, they need to be checked in on by very regularly. Because it is very often the aftermath that is the most damaging and the loneliest time, you know, you build top, you're told you, you're going to be as superstars as amazing. And you're, you're carted around, you've got transfers and flights, and you've got all these exciting, magazine shoots and TV shoots, and you've got producers in your ear telling you how amazing you are, and it's gonna be life changing for you. And then the minute you're off the show, it all comes crashing down and you're alone. And you're learning a few ways. And I think that that is the really dark time. And and I think that that's kind of the part we need to focus more on. I think that's the reason why, you know, we've had I think three might be wrong. Three, love Ireland, UK contestants commit suicide over the last five or so years. It's
that's the scary part. And so I think there needs to be more done. In the aftermath of reality beneficial. Someone's asked, What is your experience with addiction? And do you have any advice around around it? I've definitely, you know, there have been times when I've wondered if my drinking is a problem. I think that
a straight as Australian is a society, we drink a lot like it's in our culture, we grow up around it, you know, every big event. Every public holiday is celebrated by drinking. And I think that as you get older, especially in my industry, where a lot of the time I'm drinking, you know, I spoke earlier about having different events on every night, I could be out for five nights a week with work events, and you best believe I'm drinking every night. And obviously I'm not drinking to get drunk every night. Sometimes it's just one glass of champagne. So, I mean, I wouldn't I've never had an addiction problem. But there's definitely been times where I've questioned my habits and whether they could be healthier for me for sure. Next question is how do you ingest self care? And what are your coping strategies to maintain your mental health? And we'll just do you want to kick that off? Considering I've been talking for the last? Yeah, sure. I think what some of your strategies for looking after your mental health, I think are go inward a little bit. I think I am introverted in that way. So I probably disconnect a little bit from people and social media and that kind of thing. And I'll do things that are, you know, good for you, as opposed to good for the soul, like walking and eating healthy and stopping drinking.
And then I try and surround myself with really good friends and family once you've kind of come to terms with it. But I've also gotten into meditation recently. Oh, yeah. Using an apple, what do you
Tommy, our good mate, executive producer got me on to Sam Harris. So I've been using that for a little while. And I think he's a little bit more scientific behind the whole thing because I don't like that. I don't like to sitting there and
not at an array. He explains everything behind it. And he helps you understand why you're doing it and like ways to do it. And yeah, I use a an app called insight timer, which is amazing. I had this one. So funny, because it's his app. It's like probably over a million different meditations, guided ones not guided ones once for self esteem, ones for sleep, ones for confidence, you know, and I listened to the same one every night. Sometimes repeatedly like it, if it if it trails off, and I realise I'm still awake. I'll pop it on again. What is it? I'll put the link I'll share it with our followers because it's actually amazing. And I've sent it to a few friends who have been struggling to sleep in ISO in lockdown, and they've been like holy shit, and I'm like I know. Right? And I've tried other ones, but I find this particular voice is so soothing. And there's like, nice background noises like little crickets, but not too loud to keep you awake. Anyway, I'll share it with everybody trust me it will change your life. And what do I do for self care? meditate as well. I meditate at night to help me switch my brain off, which has been a life changer. I think getting outdoors helps more than you realise. I think sometimes it seems like it's a really silly idea which especially when you're feeling super low or you've got no energy and someone says go and go for a walk in the sunshine. You're like fuck off Karen like I don't want to do that.
But even the other day, I was saying
Inside our apartment of house, doing some work on my laptop, I was having a really shitty week like last week was not a good time for me. And thank God for violet being so up and about or I don't know what what I would have done with the episode. And anyway, my housemate Peter came out and she's like, you know what, it was a beautiful sunny day and we had this really nice Balinese kind of vibe in the courtyard and it looks amazing. Yeah, it's really nice when it's sunny and this sort of in the wind you can kind of get mesmerising anyway. She was like, go outside right now. Go sit in the sun. And I was like, No, I used to do this work. I don't have to see my screen. And she's like, take your laptop, take some fucking Sonny's, and go sit outside the sun. And I was like, yeah, maybe I didn't maybe. So like, if you're not out there in five minutes, I'm going to come and like, drag you out there. Yeah. And she went to her room. And I was like, fine.
But I do. And like I took a trip and set out and it was actually so nice. And like the vitamin D with the fresh air, it really can make the world of a difference. So I definitely suggest getting out and about even when it doesn't feel like something you want to do. And then obviously talking to friends, I think it's so important to, to lean on on your friends.
And tell them what's going on. Sometimes it's just getting an out of your brain and you instantly feel lighter. So yeah, same with you and talking to friends. This is the last question we have from your audience. And then we're going to get into questions from you and me. So finally, what's something you wish someone had told you as a teenager? I was in real estate. I said, I know shark horror. I was a real stress head. I know. I just think somebody told me like,
everything's gonna be fine. Like, it's just going to be okay. It'll always be okay. You're always going to be okay. I just always thought the worst and I was so doom and gloom. Growing up as a little girl, my anxiety, I was convinced someone my family was going to get sick. And it turned out that someone did get sick. But you know, I'm still okay. I'm all right. Yeah, it's it's been a tough couple of years. And yeah, it was hard losing her, but I'm doing okay. Like, I'm still okay. And, you know, I studied so hard for exams. And then when I didn't get full marks, I was so angry and you know, hard on myself. It's like, I still get went to the My favourite University and I still graduated, I have a degree and you know what, I'm not currently really using my degree, and that's okay, too. Like, I just think that someone once said to me, everything is okay. In the end. If it's not okay, then it's not the end. And I think that's really true. And I wish someone had told me that sooner. Yeah. Wow.
All right. Okay.
So Jess, you are always putting me on the spot. You've got your secret little questions that you highlight with black so that I can't see the when I run sheets, you send me under the bus, the minibus with Karen like you constantly trying to trip me up. And I think it's about time, I have a go. Because you have been the surprise stop too much. Talia, we obviously knew that. You know, I mean, my name is in the name of the podcast. But I think what's been really lovely, especially for me, but also from the listeners is watching you come out of your shell and really come into your own. So I've got a few questions for you. Are you ready? I'm ready. I get nervous. Don't be nervous. Don't be nervous. How has the podcast changed your life? Personally, I think it's given me something to really look forward to every week. And I love that we've built a friendship over the airwaves. And I think as well, like I love I love depth, having depth to someone that I know. So like, how often do you actually sit back with girlfriends and get to ask them kind of like really thoughtful questions. That's so true. I thought of it like that, like I love you know, sitting down planning for the week ahead and our episode and you know, what we're going to talk about So, you know, things like toxic friendships. And, you know, we've got in episode one where you were talking about fertility issues and that kind of thing. So, you know, how often do you actually sit back and think about that, and then also discuss it and digest it and form an opinion on it. So that's what I'm enjoying. Do you think that's probably maybe why we feel like we've known each other for longer because we've kind of gotten to some pretty serious topics like really quickly. And we've kind of both been forced, you know, even though this episode might be about my dad or it might be about my toxic friendships, you are naturally going to consider your own dad and your own toxic friendships. Yeah, I think that's why we feel like we're we feel like we're closer than we technically should be knowing each other for like, what nine weeks? Yeah, because we haven't we skipped that superficial chat. And we just got straight to the real issues. Yeah, of that. Okay, if I gave you total control of the pod for an episode, what would we talk about and who would we have on as a guest? And this is like, whatever you want, like think as big as you want to go? All right, I've got the answer for you. Oh, okay. Yonsei obviously, Beyonce. Yeah, Beyonce is my favourite person the entire row you have
just blabber on about how willing you have never mentioned that to me ever.
Did you ever mention that? Again? I probably haven't. Yeah, I love Beyonce. And I mean, the other obvious option would be Bernie Brown. And actually, if we're going to go for a more realistic option, now that you've already mentioned it, Drew, we know that we're gonna have him on the show, fingers crossed, fingers crossed. Drew, if you're listening, please, please, please, what do I have to do to get you to agree? Okay, so we have to say, what are we talking about with you on so
we are going to talk about your career and being driven in that and achieving your goals because she's obviously I mean, she's queen bee. Like, she's this shit that she does. And her work ethic. I just love that about her. I mean, on top of her music, obviously, but I do I was so devastated. I was supposed to see at Coachella that year, she had to pull out cuz she had the twins. And like, I love Lady Gaga. But I've seen Lady Gaga a million times. I wanted to say Beyonce. Yeah, I've been to a concert. It's great. And then you saw that, um, is it Netflix, the documentary she did about the prep? That meme that goes around where it's like, remember, you have as many hours in the day as Beyonce. I'm like, fucking hell. And what am I doing to 10 laps.
He's putting out twins, and then she's training for Coachella. Like, I can't even get I was a graduate. I'm down for Beyonce, Beyonce. If you're listening. We had down we opened on too much Kelly. When we first met, literally when our first meetings, you had just deleted hinge in a fresh headed rage. How is dating live fi now I think you're more open to it. I'm definitely more open to it. But admittedly, I have deleted it again.
I'm super open to that guy a little bit on and off but I can't deal with it right now. While we're in ISO and locked down for it's just going back to the superficial stuff. I honestly hate I hate that kind of chat. And I just my my mental capacity for it is just not there at the moment. And so dating apps, talking a dating app at the best of times is hard taper conversation going to keep it engaging to keep it from drying out is hard at the best of times when you have fun stories to share, especially out here in a poor Melbourne, you know, we're out of chat that's like we do today nothing. And finding the same with all my paramedic flower boy. The prospect of not being able to like meet up or do anything for a date. Like even if we were to meet up as like an intimate partner. All he can do is come here or I can go to Hughes and like that's fun for like a night and that like I as I said before, the best thing about dating on my phone in the world is to go out to restaurants and eat out and do fun things and go we can always and like and also I feel like because it's kind of reversed isn't it? Like you eventually get to that stage where you do just have sleepovers and you do just have dinners at home that kind of thing. But you want the exciting stuff? Yeah, I fuckin agree. Okay, in Episode One you asked me what I am looking for in a partner What are you looking for in a partner? I am looking for someone who is fun above anything else and someone who's positive
and maybe spontaneous as well. And we already know my aesthetic Tatars long hair beard. grungy dirty I mean not dirty in the sense that they're dirty but just kind of like real grunge yeah a bit rough around the edges. Okay, so I'm really glad I'm going to tell her to shave and has about eight headers so hopefully he'll be safe from you if he if and when he comes on the show. That's just a long kind of standing dream but I'm kidding because obviously go card I would never go there with you totally. Guys. I'm gonna do you all favour and share on the too much Telly add too much totally on Instagram. Drew and I have actually been speaking about Jess. Jessica is this I've sent Jessica screengrabs and I'm going to share these with you on the Instagram so go check them out. He does know that she exists. So I mean Jess, you know I love you that much that I would not actually find that there's no way you do
not go code I couldn't really not but I will really enjoy what you get flustered if we ever do get on the show. And okay, we've been stuck in lockdown now for what feels like forever. Most of us picking up a new skill or at least attempting to what has yours been. I'll be baking are we needing? Are we doing yoga all of a sudden? No, not doing yoga. I can't stand that. Okay, a new hobby. I have a hobby that I have done for years now but I'm not even that good but calligraphy hypermesh saying wait, what?
Say what? Hey, Matt Shea just trying to think of the weirdest thing. Like what do you say funny? I'm calligraphy. Like, yeah, lettering and stuff.
But the line is blurred. I'm learning so much. I have the world's worst handwriting. Really? Can you show us something? Now? Do you have anything random anything around me, but maybe we can talk something up? Or maybe I'll do too much Telly for you? I'm actually not even that good. It's embarrassing. No, no, no, no, no, this is great. I want to talk more about this. Okay, so I truly
So I went to this fancy ass private school in North Sydney called Winona. Shout out to anyone that went to that school.
Anyway, so we had laptops from like IE five or six
or so really ridiculous video like being 32 and stuff.
And I don't mean that in Nevada. Wow. I just mean, I didn't get a laptop until I was at university. Wow. Yeah, well that's what those fancy law schools are like, want to prepare you for adulthood and that's why I can talk like a motherfucker. Anyway, I had this theory that because we've got laptops so early on my handwriting is stunted back as I can you five kid it's so bad. In fact, guys, if you're after a low, go to my Instagram, not the podcast and to my personal Instagram at t underscore smile and have a look at my latest post that had to do for September, which is a very very worthy, dirty fucking laugh for me is a very worthy important cause. Raising money and awareness women's mental health I've been working with him as an ambassador for six years. It is a very important cause Close To My Heart However, this year they're like hey, we have this new concept idea of like writing really empowering message on your mirror in lipstick because the whole thing about September is wearing a bright coloured lipstick to start a conversation about them and mental health. I read that and I was like, I'm fucked. You become really fucked here. First of all, it is hard to write on a mirror with lipstick kind of say who's done that no one does that. It's hard. And you also you always have lipstick. So I did choose I was mostly concerned about how to find a lipstick that I like was a nice colour, but I also didn't mind wasting half of it. Then you have to pick a message right? Don't be too long because you have to run it on a mirror and as we said I have terrible anyway. Long story short, it's horrendous and I had to upload it and I'm embarrassed. No, it was great. It was a nice message. No one's gonna be concerned about your handwriting on a mirror fact that you actually not only have nice handwriting you have like the fanciest of handwriting like when I get married maybe to paramedic boy you can do our fucking invitations place cards invitations everything how do you how does one get into calligraphy? How did you start so I have a thing with hobbies sorry another hobby that I had before I started was woodworking so I did a course in so I made a cabinet in my laundry room on our I just love I think it's sorry this makes like makes my hot birth like you're just that's just so genuine and just like lovely. I think I get bored really easily and I don't watch TV that much so I'm like I'm always like what can I do next? And what can I learn so yeah, I made a did a course made a cabinet and now I've got projects that I cannot wait to make as soon as I get out of this godforsaken apartment once locked down for is over. I love that for you Jess and I want to say calligraphy and I want to see cabinet and okay we just locked down purchase I've made some weird ones. I made another weird one last night what has been something you've bought? You know, because obviously we're doing a lot of online shopping Yeah, what's been a weirdest thing you've bought just because I've frickin stuck in our houses. I bought one of those pins that it's an it's an eyebrow pin and it's to give you the microblading effect you stamp it like this not not God no no, it's like has like it's like a fork but we it's like a text a fork and then you just kind of brush it on I'm not using it right now because it's not my colour it's a real shame. It reminds me of those those Crayola like little stampy pens he got and you could like had like little ladybirds on them and little like you're talking about Yeah, the girl text is and you'd less as a little kid you just like step machine and then like metal prints. That's what I'm imagining but for your eyebrows.
I know you're talking about I've seen it so I last night after seeing Josh Miller My dear friend Josh Mila uploaded this like little sauce pin. And I'm going to describe it a
little spin and you put the water in the bottom of it and then you have these little egg cups it's for poaching eggs buyer. Yeah, yeah, so I bought on those last night.
That's a real adult very, it is a real adult move. Next will be a Dyson vacuum. And you also asked me in Episode One what my go to KFC order is if you could only eat at one fast food restaurant for the rest of your life. What when we
crossed and specifically the PERI Peri chicken you'd get off Peri Peri chicken and the other half would be the vegetable pesto everyone okay it was not imagining cross but that is you know, that's interesting. I do love Perry Perry algor half Perry Perry half BBQ chicken. Oh yeah, that's another good option. Yeah. Okay. What are you reading, listening to and watching right now reading? I'm reading untamed by Glennon Doyle. Mm. Which is amazing. If you haven't read it, you really need to read it because it's all about not just female like males as well the societal kind of cages that we've been
brought up in and how to break free of them that kind of thing. To break free. Good song. I'm listening to I
don't know if you notice about me. Oh, what but this morning I was listening to an old school like playlist that I started with old school email or emo music. I know I love a my music I used to be a massive a my fan starting line they used underoath Yeah, I used to. Yeah, have a no effects t shirt. I wear it next episode. I have an old no effects t shirt. Metallica t shirt I have. Okay, that's awesome. Yep. She had a playlist with us. Okay, we'll do okay. on watching. Oh, watching sorry. Yes. He didn't watch a lot of TV. No, not really. I haven't really watched anything recently. So I don't know what I can say there. Yeah, I actually haven't watched anything. I don't I'm not even watching the news now. And I'm a news hound. Not even the batchi. No, I don't like those kind of shows. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, that also it's literally the world's worst batchi. Um, but that's neither here nor there. Give me three short term goals and three long term goals is the last question. Wow, okay. short term goals.
I want to make the podcast a success. Like, I want to just keep going like I'm loving this, I just want to keep making it better and better alongside you.
Another short term goal is just maintain mental health and just, you know, maintain myself while we're in lockdown, and then I'm seriously looking forward to a really good summer. So if I can just get through till then. And then
what else? It's crazy that like the concepts like I can't even imagine being out at a bar with you. And our we've never had that in our friendship, because we've not been locked down the entire time. Does it mean like a kind of imagined being added about having a drink with you? It seems like it's just so far away from reality right now. I know. Another short term goal, can I come back to that one, I'll go to long term goals, long term goals, I career lack, I'm, I'm driven in that area, like I just want to be super successful. And, yeah, kind of just be proud of what I've done and accomplished and kind of look back and be happy with where I've come. And I want to make that. As you know, I have just started a new job recently. So I want to do a good job there and help build what we're creating there.
I really want to start a family. That's a super long term goal. So I mean, I'm gonna have to chat to them about Matt leave, eventually.
I'll be I'll be your nanny. You bring the baby into the studio, and I'll look after the baby. Why do the podcast brilliant.
And another long term goal is just to be happy. Is that lame to say? No, not at all. I think it's a great I think it's a great goal. And we should all work towards. Okay, if a short term goal is completed that leave it to let's leave it at Target because I'm really bad at thinking on the spot. Apparently. You're off the hook. You're off the hook. Well, Don, you survived. Well, I'm gonna turn it back on to you now, because this is too much Telly and not too much just yet, but we love Jess.
All right. I've just unhidden the questions for you. Mm hmm. All right. Funny that we've already kind of spoken about this but growing up what music were you into? Or what's your favourite genre? Let's change the question. All right, well, hang on. Great. So I my first ever my first kiss guy Newman. He didn't know it was my first kiss. I lied because I was embarrassed that he was my first kiss and I didn't want to tell him that so I said someone else my first kiss anyway. He was my first kiss and he was really into pop punk. So he got me into pop punk. I really really loved it. I just I don't know. I felt like it really spoke to me. You know, I really understood my feelings as a DM Um, so I was really into pop punk as like as was before. And now without kind of weed is music tastes like I am just as likely to blast Taylor Swift's new album on repeat for a week and pay to contest it like
especially during lockdown like she came home getting coffee she like oh, it's still playing this one away like it's just it's just every every every piece is an amazing you know bit of music. But also I'll play like this like nondescript like jazz playlist when I'm working. And like literally everything from like Frank Sinatra to Katy Perry to vanover to cinematic orchestra like I literally have such varied music tastes the only How about k easy question genres. I don't like I don't like screamo heavy metal music. And I'm sorry, sorry. I don't like I'll see. Hey, Paul. Yeah, where it's like some days walking down the street some day like No, I just don't do that.
So we just found a snippet for this episode. That was that was great to watch. I mean, nothing like it's fucking sama in Australia. And we're in the backyard shooting in it's like shot and we're in the nosebleed section yet. They're actually
Right hilltop hoods are fucking phenomenal. I've seen them explained on the grass. They're amazing performers. I don't know what I'm thinking of. Yeah, I just don't a fan of other hip hop. Maybe to accent I don't know. Yeah, that's fair. All right. What scares you the most? Oh, oh God, do you want do we gonna go superficial, heavy? What do you want? Heavy? heavy. Okay, um, the fact that I could possibly already have my mom's disease. Mm hmm. So you still feel like you might?
I mean, yeah, no, actually. It's it's like that's just factually scientifically. You know, the case is that me and my two brothers might have it and we have it. You know, if we do have it, we have it already. It's just unfortunately, just a fact of life. It's not 100% and we can run it by a genetic test. But that's not something that I'm interested in doing at this point in my life. So that is my biggest fear that and snakes. Yeah, spot is mine. Look, I don't have a problem with spot his
story last night. It was slug problem suddenly.
Yes, all of a sudden, we will go to bed. No slugs around during the day. We'll go to bed. So last night we both went to bed and I went to go to the bathroom right before I went to sleep after three hours on Tick tock, and two slugs. not one, but two slugs. Just middle like I was talking like they need the doorways or need the middle of like, Where have you come from the cook. Let's see. Do you know what i have a fear of stepping on snails as well, because I've done it before on bare feet. And it's it's really hard to get the stickiness off your feet as well. It makes me sick. Imagine if you just like got out of bed one day just like slid on a slug.
I'm not scared of slugs. But it's just disgusting. Like as you're saying. We keep a lovely hat like this house is not like I'm OCD. I don't know why you see it's like you think I'll go into dirty house. A lot of people said it's because of
old house cracks and floorboards. They come looking for food. They're like, do you have a dog? And I was like, No, like, they're like they love pet food, apparently. Anyway, sorry. As you were taken away. We digress again, again. What is your biggest goal that you're yet to achieve? Or I've got two goals, I really need to write this goddamn book. And really to do this weight book on one. I've been asked to write a book on myself. I have not told you this. I mean, it hasn't registered if you have but this is great. Yeah, I've been asked to write a book on myself. And that is really hard. I've found out anyway, so I'd love to do that eventually. And being a mom, obviously, like I just I really really, I just feel like I was born to be a mom and I would mean so much to me. I'd feel so lucky and so blessed if that was on the cards for me so definitely that I'm so I'm excited about this book.
I feel like you could use to this podcast as you kind of like, you benchmark and you can just listen back and kind of like type out everything you said you know what it is all I have to do at this very moment in time. All they're asking for is a first chapter and I can't even give them that because I can't even when I'm for work stuff. I'm speaking at a dementia conference soon. And they asked me to write a bio about myself you know how hard it is to write about yourself in like, an objective manner. Like I started writing something I was like this isn't interesting. Like no wants to hear this shit. Can I put a challenge to you know, God? Sure. What can I get you to write a page a day? I want to get this book started for this. You and Jen both gems like hello. So it's been nearly a year now and you've given us nothing and like I say challenge. Well, that was my ICER It was my as a challenge. When I said we have to be locked in a hassle for those first six weeks. I was like, Okay, cool. No, I have no excuse. And yet I've done everything but let the web dance, bake banana bread. I have not written a single page of this.
Alright, that's your next challenge. Anyway. All right. So next question from me, I find is very telling about a person. Mm hmm. What dog would you get if you could have one? Okay, so obviously I have had a dog already with Talia. So we had a Pomeranian
but if I was to get a dog now, definitely a smaller dog. Do you know what I really love? I really love the um, what are they called? The with the fluffy Charles. No, I grant Charles King Charles Cavalier. Really sweet. Yeah, I grew up with a Labrador don't love Labradors. They're a lot of work. They're they're a big adult. And I feel like unless I wouldn't get a big dog like that unless I had Yod. for them. I think it's really unfair to have big dogs in small inner city apartments or semies. And King Charles Cavalier, or I hate to say but like on those like spittle doodle mixes, classic, like Shut up. I mean, it's a little bit basic, but that's okay, like a caboodle live and one of my friends have them and they're really sweet natured and they're playful. But it's such a it's such a gamble because you just don't know how much of each mix you're going to get like, I've got friends that have the same breed dog and one is like, you know, size of a horse and the other one is
A tiny little thing so I think it's really even Luna like when we bought Luna she supposed to be full Pomeranian I swear she had something else in her like DNA gamble. He looks like a chihuahua or no face I can noses anyway. So it's about you what what dogs did you get? I get away with it. No.
Do not laugh. Do not I if you call them a rat, I swear to God, I'm never doing a podcast with you again. Okay, so I actually went on a couple of dates with a guy that has a whip it almost changed my mind on them his whip. It was really really lovely. They had the most beautiful dogs in the entire world and they're so funny. Okay, so bear with me here. This is gonna sound weird to you. I don't expect you to understand it. But this is how I this is how I feel. So I'm terrified of snakes right really hate snakes hide their faces. Little fucking pointy noses they're slid a little lies. Don't trust them disgusting like my eyes water. I'm gonna gag like they make me feel physically nauseous and I start crying. I'm crying nothing about them. I think they're fucking disgusting. For some reason we put through mommy of snakes. Bush why you've got this little fucking pointy noses, they've got no hair. And then they're like, really like, oh, like,
like their little spindly legs. They're like dash around and then like, they just don't trust them. I don't trust me. This breaks my heart. I'm so sad because I'm getting on. Not look, as I said, I used to be scared of them. I didn't I didn't appreciate them. I didn't trust them and like trustworthy dogs. And then I was seeing this guy. And he had this beautiful sweet natured little sort of really, really sweet little with it. So I think that I just haven't spent enough time with them growing up, you know, when you haven't been around them, like him, give people give palms a really bad rep and Luna is the best she does not own erotic, cool, like yappy or like. So yeah, I think it's just about it's about the dog. You know, it's because you've got to know them. Yeah. Okay, if you weren't an influencer or a journalist, what would you want to be? Great question, Jessica. I it's always been a pipeline dream of mine. In fact, I went so far as to look up what I would need to do to be qualified. But I wasn't to be a teacher, a high school English teacher. And with my journalism degree, I think I'd have to do down here in Victoria. It's like, I have to do like an extra two years or something before I'm qualified, which is ludicrous.
So yeah, a teacher. Would you imagine you being a teacher rocking out to class and I'm going to move one of the questions that I have down below up, imagine them showing you a tick tock or have bloody photo of you in the Big Brother house. Okay, so speaking of that, um, so I've always wanted to be a teacher, it's always been something that I've had in the back of my mind is like, you know, a pipeline dream was something I could maybe consider when I was retired, or, you know, where my kids had grown up.
And then, my darling ex boyfriend, Anthony Drew, said to me after the show, he said, like, like, you can't fucking meditate. Now. What do you mean? He's like, eating? Like, no, it's gonna take you serious as a teacher now. And that was really heartbreaking. She's a support, babe. But yeah, I mean, he has a point. I don't know if I could do it. Now. There's, yeah, I think if you just get, excuse me with a smile. I know. That's the thing. So especially me wanting to do high school teaching. Like they're going to have phones. It's very easy for them to Google. And even if they don't Google, their parents might know who I am. I don't know if I'd be able to like calm down a room of unruly, you know, 15 year old boys. Yeah. Me and my underwear. Don't take me seriously. Exactly. You ask the question. So I answered it.
I can leave the last question. I know it's talking about it. Can we talk about the tick tock but saying going around, cuz I have to admit, I saw it and I laughed, and I know it's annoying because you get sent it all the time, but
it was just fucking funny. For those who aren't aware a tick tock video featuring me. My ex boyfriend drew and Ben Zabel from my series of Big Brother has gone viral on Tiktok. It was on the for you page and I probably had about 300 people send it to me as a DM just in case I've missed it. Which is fucking annoying because drew didn't get anyone send it to him. I don't know why everyone thinks that I've just been on tik tok a lot. So basically, it's it's actually very funny saying and I do, I do appreciate and I can laugh at myself. And I can laugh at the same. It's very funny clip. But uh, yeah, so Joe and I are having an argument, sort of across the pool. And he sort of yelling at me and I was like, Can you keep your voice down? Because I didn't want anyone else to hear us arguing. Is it Oh, what? Because they're not other people here are gonna hear it are they? And then he just said like, I'm in the pool. And Ben had been like in the pool swimming, and we couldn't see him from where we were standing. And he'd been there listening to us argue trying to like, evaporate. And then like, go inside soon. Yeah. And I kind of like love and then watch him get changed or something and drew just because off the bucket and get to the pool. And then like an adelaida do and I still kind of like trying to Daybreak from this argument. And like Drew's crying and I'm like trying to calm him down. And we're having this really emotional heavy.
No chat. And then Ben just appears again. He's like all sorry, because I needed to fill up my water bottle. Anyway, someone's cut those two things together and it went viral on Tiktok. And yeah, like 100 million Chilean people thought that I hadn't seen it. And so it sent it to me. Which is fine. It's just a bit like a Yeah, I've seen it. I've definitely seen it. Yep. I remember that. It's just not. I mean, do you want to have an argument with your ex boyfriend go viral? I don't think so. No, but the thing is, you can't hear what you guys are arguing about. So I can tell you, what was it?
So the tape or Ed and drew never really got along in the house. They always had, I think it's kind of like the both of the pretty boys, the two pretty boys. And I've really got to London, the house. And Ed was trying to tell me it was it was a friend of mine at night got along really well. And Ed that night would have been drinking as one of the party nights. And Ed pulled me aside and he said, just be careful with drugs like you don't know him very well. Just make sure that you can trust him. Like don't basically just try to warn me not not to sort of get carried away and put all my eggs in one basket or like, don't throw away your game plan for this boy. And it really upset me because it felt like I was missing out. I didn't know something like people knew more than I did. And I suddenly was questioning everything and questioning drew and questioning whether I could trust him and and I brought it up that night, obviously after 100 drinks, which is a really wise decision. And yeah, that was drew being angry about the fact that you know, firstly, it was his arch nemesis that had said this be that I was questioning his his trustworthiness. And so yeah, totally I get was about and that's why and that's why he's crying. He's like, you know, you're the one person I truly truly care about. So yeah, there's the inside to feel your light is inside a loving this, you were just frothing at the beer, you're gonna go back and you chew this whole clip thing, watch the whole thing I want to go maybe I'll go back and watch your big brother episodes. If I cannot. If you do that, I should do it with you. We should record a reaction because I've actually never watched it. You can the entire series is on YouTube. Okay, this is great news. Let's think about that. All right, I've got three more questions for you.
What is the biggest lesson that you've learned from travelling? Oh, that's a good one. I'm travelling alone. I travel alone a lot for work. And it's definitely forced me to be more independent. It's forced me to put myself out there more. You know, if you're on a trip for, say a week, and you're by yourself, if you don't put yourself out there, you're gonna have a pretty boring, lonely time. So, travelling has definitely taught me, you know, to have confidence in myself to make new friends. I'd often get dressed up and just go to a local bar and just speak to whoever's at the bar. Like, I would never have done that five, six years ago, never in a million years, but it's given me more confidence to do that. Because
that's how you make new friends and meet new people. And that's how you you know, you broaden your horizons and you broaden your understanding different cultures. And it's definitely given me more self confidence, for sure. I would I would never have done that a couple years ago. Mm hmm.
What's the most embarrassing song on your Spotify?
I know there's so there's so many rattling songs. I didn't even bother putting on like incognito. Like I didn't care who listens to me. Okay, so for ages, I was campaigning to get the auto album on Spotify. I loved bado growing up, I once lined up off to school for like hours to get them to sign my school hat. When poison came out as single came out, I was a huge bado fan. I mean, I often listen to the bado album. And these days on my favourites channel talking about that song. No. These days the welds are right the sun shines right I'm kicking out the back streets these days. Don't think twice. It's a great song. You should listen to Africa after this but yeah, probably the better album Okay, that's relevant anymore you know i mean like know who's listening to fucking bought our house even on there who even anyway, yeah, butter. They had a bit of a they came back they did a Was it a 20 year reunion? recently and sorry if you didn't go? Yeah, well, then it's not bad. Oh, is it it's like saying it's a Spice Girls reunion without ginger. Like it's just not the Spice Girls reunion. Oh, that posh? Yeah. All right. Finally, your last question for me is, if you're a Disney Princess, which one would you be and why? I think growing up I would just be really basic. And I'm blonde. So my only options are the blonde princesses. But now that I'm older and wiser there's also some pretty fucking work Disney Princesses now like as like Elsa or there's like the redhead chick from brave, you know? who apparently is like Elizabeth Anyway, let's not put that up there. Um, is it weird that I'm imagining their male love interest and figure out which one's the hottest? And going off of that? Is that weird? Does that show you what kind of mental sentiment at the moment that I'm like, working Batman like Pocahontas like he was hot like What's his name? Will something Will Smith No.
john smith, john smith, john smith, john smith.
He was hot. Like, yeah, he was hot. I once dated this guy. In fact, you'll be listening.
I went on a few dates with this guy. He's now one of my closest bestest friends. Hi, Michael. And he when I'm drunk, he stopped looking like Prince Eric from Little Mermaid. Oh, I'll get drunk, but you look like a Disney Prince again. Um, God is hi question. What's yours? you to help me out? Okay, um, I feel like mine would be sleeping beauty and beauty because I'm blocked by because you'd like to sleep. Yeah. And also I'm kind of just hoping that a guy rocks up to my house and no, that's not the purpose of this game. No, I think it would probably be maybe Cinderella because she has a good work ethic. She's a good person. She's got hips, a little animal friends and they all come together and help each other out for her ballgown and, and then she ends up with the love of her life. Thanks for telling us a story that we had no idea. Um, okay, so, okay, okay, I got to I can't be I'm a Libra. I'm indecisive. Okay, so I've got to, I'm gonna say Belle, because she a couple of reasons. She's massive bookworm. Loves reading. Very, very studious. Very close with that dad. Very close the dad daddy daughter relationship. And she likes turning animals.
She likes a rugged guy with a long mane as do I and she likes you know, she uses them as her little projects. And she thinks if she just loves them hard enough. She can polish a turd. That is a great answer. belt or Elsa because she's an ice queen who's kind of like fuck everybody else. I don't want to get hurt ever again. I can't risk putting myself out there. I don't deserve to be loved. So I'm just gonna build myself a fucking ice castle. So you know what? That movie how that movie ends? Yeah, I mean, I haven't. I haven't seen presenter yet. Maybe we should do that tonight. That's right. As far as it happening is you're gonna have any presenter does she find love? Well not haven't seen frozen to either. But in even in in episode one movie one, she breaks down the walls that they melt. We melt the ice. So you can't say that? Because that's not who you are anymore. Am I not? You sound like Now am I not trying? I'm trying to break down walls. I'm trying to be more open. But in my heart of hearts. I'm still an ice queen. So one of those two great questions and I love how much we like really pull it apart. We were like, Oh, I'm gonna say Ariel, because she's the prettiest. We're like, Well, my trauma leads me to believe that I am.
But like, if you could be like Sleeping Beauty like just sleeping all day, someone some hot guy comes and wakes you up with a kiss. Easy. That is what I'm hoping for. Yeah, but I don't want to like she started like I imagine waking up. I didn't Okay, wait, imagine going to a coma like last year and then waking up now? Like, no, thank you. This is true. I mean, I feel like it's kind of COVID anyway, but um, Well, that wraps up all the questions I have for you had to find it. That was fun. I've had a really good time. This has been a really fun episode I love you know, I know we often have much more important things to discuss and I'm so happy to talk about them. I love having guests on the show. But I do really love our our bands, EPS and our little chat at the beginning of every episode. So this has been a really fun episode. Um,
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